Third House

One birth moment, read four different ways.

Third House’s own chart, cast in Los Angeles, drawn the way each tradition draws it. They disagree about where the zodiac begins, what a house is and which bodies count, and all of that is legitimately correct, because they’re different instruments and we give you each one faithfully.

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01 · Tropical zodiac

Western

Carried from the Hellenistic world through Persian, Arabic and medieval European hands, and given its psychological voice in the twentieth century.

Sun
19°36′ Leo, 4th house
Rising
26°17′ Taurus
Mercury
4°20′ Leo, opposite Pluto by 0°26′

Reads first: the Sun, Moon and rising sign, and every between the planets. Times life by transits, the sky now against the sky then.

Read your chart the Western way →NextVedic
2As3♂︎4☉︎ ☽︎☿︎ ♃︎56♀︎7891011☊︎12♄︎1The lines are drishti, which houses each graha looks at

02 · Sidereal zodiac

Vedic Jyotiṣa

India’s living tradition, reckoned against the fixed stars instead of the seasons, so most planets land about a sign earlier than in a Western chart.

Lagna
2°03′ Taurus
Moon
19°30′ Cancer, in Ashlesha
3rd house
Sun, Moon, Mercury and Jupiter

Reads first: the lagna and the Moon’s . Times life by dasha periods, and this chart opens in Mercury’s.

Read your chart the Vedic way →NextHellenistic
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03 · The first horoscopes

Hellenistic

Worked out in Greek, in the Mediterranean world of some two thousand years ago, and the source of the twelve houses and most of the words astrology still uses.

Sect
A night chart, so the Moon leads
Chart ruler
Venus, at home in Libra, 6th
Lot of Fortune
2°09′ Gemini, 2nd

Reads first: , then each planet’s condition. Times life by annual profections.

SectWhether you were born by day or by night. It changes which planets help and which are difficult, so it’s read before anything else. This one is a night chart.
Read your chart the Hellenistic way →NextBaZi
Year年丙Bing · Fire午Wu · Horse
Month月丙Bing · Fire申Shen · Monkey
Day日丁Ding · FireDay master巳Si · Snake
Hour時壬Ren · Water子Zi · Rat

04 · Four pillars

BaZi 八字

Chinese astrology built from the calendar itself: year, month, day and hour, each a heavenly stem over an earthly branch. That’s eight characters, and no wheel at all.

Day master
丁 Ding, yin Fire, or with the day turned at 23:00, 戊 Wu, yang Earth
Year
丙午 · the Fire Horse
Fire
5 of the eight characters, or 4 with the day turned at 23:00

Reads first: the and the balance of the five elements. Times life by ten-year luck pillars.

Read your chart the BaZi way →Back toWestern

Why we don’t blend them

It would be easy to compute one chart and dress it up four ways, and it would also be worthless, because the techniques aren’t interchangeable and one tradition’s method under another’s name produces confident nonsense. So a Vedic compatibility report here scores the eight kutas of guna milan, a Hellenistic report won’t cite Pluto, and a BaZi report won’t draw a wheel. Every choice we made is written down, and we’ll share it if you ask.

Which should you read?

If you’re new to astrology, start with Western, the vocabulary everything in English is written against. To know when, try Vedic for its dasha periods. For something stricter and more rule-bound, Hellenistic. For temperament and the shape of a working life, with no zodiac at all, BaZi. Or read one question in two of them and watch where they disagree, which is usually the interesting part.

Your own birth moment, four ways.

One set of details, and every tradition calculated by its own rules.

Western, Vedic, Hellenistic and BaZi astrology, compared — Third House